faster than light

[Ol’ Ben]

This originally started as a thread about things traveling faster than light right? Alright. I will continue.

So with speed comes mass, and all that right? Now this thing is speeding beyond our limits of relativity, thus clashing with causality, and basically creating temporal rifts, some time travel, and maybe a wormhole (but I won’t get into that). With special relativity, something needs infinite energy to accelerate to the speed of light, and going beyond it is not possible and would end in a huge clusterfuck. But, Special Rel doesn’t deny the fact that it could happen, (eg. Tachyons) which use four-momentum (Lorentz Factor)

Radio Waves still do go faster than the speed of light, and they do them frequently. But these waves CAN IN NO WAY TRANSMIT ANY INFORMATION (Technically, if someone were able to pick this wave up, they do get information in the form of “what the fuck is this?”). It’s like a pencil drawn line in space.They just go fast. Because they want to go fast. It’s like string theory, except this idea is kind of tangible.

Any questions?

[Larkitect]

@Ben 41530 wrote:

This originally started as a thread about things traveling faster than light right? Alright. I will continue.

So with speed comes mass, and all that right? Now this thing is speeding beyond our limits of relativity, thus clashing with causality, and basically creating temporal rifts, some time travel, and maybe a wormhole (but I won’t get into that). With special relativity, something needs infinite energy to accelerate to the speed of light, and going beyond it is not possible and would end in a huge clusterfuck. But, Special Rel doesn’t deny the fact that it could happen, (eg. Tachyons) which use four-momentum (Lorentz Factor)

Radio Waves still do go faster than the speed of light, and they do them frequently. But these waves CAN IN NO WAY TRANSMIT ANY INFORMATION (Technically, if someone were able to pick this wave up, they do get information in the form of “what the fuck is this?”). It’s like a pencil drawn line in space.They just go fast. Because they want to go fast. It’s like string theory, except this idea is kind of tangible.

Any questions?

okay, you seem to be above my pay grade, but i think i can keep up with most of what you bring up. maybe. clear up some stuff for me. (don’t take this the wrong way, i’m not disputing what you say, just trying to understand where you’re coming from.)

• i thought that all EM waves had the same velocity?
• why can’t it transmit information? surely there’s some way to multiplex no matter what the velocity? i thought that muxing just involved the data and the medium? is trying to encode data in realtime upon a medium living in a ‘faster than light’ domain the problem? couldn’t we do the encoding first and then apply the hyper-velocity? please expand on this.

man, i love talking about stuff like this. geek-out alert. 😀

My essence still senses Bucho's women.

[Ol’ Ben]

All EM waves that do not travel through a medium such as air/water have the same particle/group velocity, in the modulation or envelope of the wave, which basically means the velocity of the parts of the waves that remain in the same place. The phase velocity is what exceeds the speed of light, but no information is on the waves in this part.

Wikipedia has an article that you could read that would explain it more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_velocity#Physical_interpretation

[Larkitect]

*face palm*

i can’t believe i wasn’t considering the frequency of the wave in all this. thanks. now it makes sense.

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