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  • #3204
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    What if you hate hip hop but you love martial arts movies?

    What if The RZA makes a kung fu movie?

    Is this the greatest moral quandary ever to face Rob Michaels?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_15pOvbu4kk

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31814
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    Keymaster

    We saw that trailer at a movie release recently… and I can’t begin to explain how utterly stupid I think this movie is going to be. I think it’s going to be executed well, but this is the movie where Tarantino has made a name for himself and is finally comfortable whipping his 12-year-old dick out and ejaculating his wet dreams all over the screen, and hoping he has the experience to draw pretty and interesting pictures in it. It looks like Mortal Kombat meets Crouching Tiger meets Quentin’s tired stylization.

    For me this movie is going to be like people trying to tell me that I should look at tits… even though they are saggy, pasty and have misaligned nipples, simply because they are tits. I can’t excuse a movie that looks like it has no hope, just because I want to like it. I’m not wired that way.

    #31819
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    Oh, this ain’t no Tarantino joint, this is directed by Robert Fitzgerald Diggs. The RZA. Of the Wu Tang Clan.

    I’m not saying it’s not going to be a mess, but at least it’s not going to be Tarantino’s mess. It’s going to be RZA’s mess presented by Tarantino.

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31815
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    Keymaster

    I missed that then. I’d be interested in how much creative he injected in it, but I’ll instead dismiss it as something he should avoided… and that I will be. It still looks like I said, and looks like he’s more involved, but I’ll try to aim my shots to stream past his ear, rather than right in his brain box.

    #31820
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    It’s all RZA and Eli Roth. It’s one of those dastardly “Presented by [insert big time director]” jobs, where said director has fuck all to do with the making or producing but something to do with the marketing.

    I have no idea of the RZA’s chops but even if it is utterly stupid it may be Planet Terror stupid, in which case fun times for me.

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31825
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    I do know that RZA is a huge martial arts fan, especially those that would be considered to be exploitative type, like the ones from the ’70s. If you go in expecting that, it might be a lot of fun. If you go in thinking its going to be like a modern-day movie, then you’d probably be disappointed. I, for one, am thinking it might be a fun movie in that style, because I’m a sucker for those movies.

    #31816
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    Keymaster

    I just read “if you go in expecting it to be a low caliber movie like movies from the 70s, only with new technology like tons of CG, and an attempt at a story that’s supposed to attract today’s fans, it might be fun.”

    Seriously, if this is what the movie is trying to be than its going to change the one thing that could make it all tolerable… Its going to try to be a movie of today just as much, erasing the thing that makes era martial arts films fun. Loose stories that only serve to move the action, wide shots of longer coerographed fight sequences (simplified sideline views of the action) and the cheese that comes along with people being fluent in the subject matter first, and not so much (if at all) in the craft of recreating it. It takes away the package that makes a lot of that older stuff highly watchable, and only leaves bits of stylistic glaze spread about.

    You were right about one thing though Rob, you are a sucker.

    #31826
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    Wow. Heheh.

    I’m curious about it, really. I can’t really defend my position very well, because in truth, it makes no sense, especially considering my past positions when it comes to other genres. It really is a lot like the Twilight stuff – I can’t fault people for liking what I consider to be a piece of shit – I just have to realize that it’s just not made for me.

    Where I draw the line is shit like Honey Boo Boo. Who the fuck asked for that?

    #31827
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    Oh, just thought of something…

    To me, this could end up a lot like Super 8. It wanted so much to be a movie from that period, you know? But they couldn’t help but use some of the techniques used today to further their storytelling. While I enjoyed that look back, I think the movie had an identity problem. I honestly think that this movie will have the same issues, but there might be some nuggets of fun in there. The thing that attracted me to this above anything else is hearing about this idea YEARS ago, and though I’m not a fan of RZA’s music, I do share his love for the genre, and his excitement was infectious.

    #31821
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    I see where you’re at with that Rob.

    One thing this trailer confirms for me is that after all these years I still really want to bone Lucy Liu but I don’t think I want to see her play the leader of a gang. She’s fine in light stuff like Charlie’s Angels but when a movie calls for her to emanate badassery in the form of a ruthless leader she comes up way short (no pun). She didn’t ruin Kill Bill for me but she’s the weakest link because of that.

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31828
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    I just think that there’s a lot of goofy looking shit in this one. More than anything, the fact that Russell Crowe is in it is such a huge WTF that it piqued my interest. Who knows for sure, though? To me, they should have kept the CG shit out of it and tried to do it low budget like those old ’70’s films. I’ve gotten so jaded when it comes to CG, and that’s one of the things I really enjoyed about Prometheus was all of the practical effects being used when it would have been easier to just use CG (even though Ridley admitted that it would have been more expensive to use CG).

    So many classic films are as good as they are because of limitations in technology and/or budget (like Jaws). I’d really like to see more directors purposely put those restrictions on themselves, and I think we’d have more imaginative movies.

    #31822
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    Yeah, CG in the wrong hands is the devil and there are so many damn wrong hands around this joint it hurts.

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31817
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    Keymaster

    Bucho, you were dead on the money with LL in your other post. I like her in Lucky Number Slevin because her personality and her look work for (like you already said) lighter stuff. Anytime she is cast as any kind of a badass, I’m annoyed as fuck. Yes, she’s the weakest in KB, and she’s flat out stupid in Payback.

    Listen to you guys trying to make the points in my rant sound like sane thought out positions on CG in retro styled/influenced films.

    #31823
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    You actually said you thought it would be stupid but executed well, so I thought your rant was about the general tone of what you expect the story to be, not about the CG.

    - Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.

    #31818
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    Keymaster

    I thought I had both in there. I don’t read my own stuff, so no clue what I did or didn’t say. Happened with the Lucy thing too. I meant to say it and them failed like a pasty sack of marbles.

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