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May 10, 2012 at 12:37 am #31233
Bucho
ParticipantA fun thing that Whedon posted on his internet – http://whedonesque.com/comments/28797
Dear Friends,
Well, it’s been quite a weekend. Someday, long from now, I will even have an emotional reaction to it, like a person would. I can’t wait! But before I become blinded by this “emotion” experience, there’s a few things I’d like to say. Well, type.
People have told me that this matters, that my life is about to change. I am sure that is true. And change is good — change is exciting. I think — not to jinx it — that I may finally be recognized at Comiccon. Imagine! Also, with my percentage of “the Avengers” gross, I can afford to buy… [gets call from agent. Weeps manfully. Resumes typing.] …a fine meal. But REALLY fine, with truffles and s#!+. And I can get a studio to finance my dream project, the reboot of “Air Bud” that we all feel is so long overdue. (He could play Jai Alai! Think of the emotional ramifications of JAI ALAI!!!!)
What doesn’t change is anything that matters. What doesn’t change is that I’ve had the smartest, most loyal, most passionate, most articulate group of — I’m not even gonna say fans. I’m going with “peeps” — that any cult oddity such as my bad self could have dreamt of. When almost no one was watching, when people probably should have STOPPED watching, I’ve had three constants: my family and friends, my collaborators (often the same), and y’all. A lot of stories have come out about my “dark years”, and how I’m “unrecognized”… I love these stories, because they make me seem super-important, but I have never felt the darkness (and I’m ALL about my darkness) that they described. Because I have so much. I have people, in my life, on this site, in places I’ve yet to discover, that always made me feel the truth of success: an artist and an audience communicating. Communicating to the point of collaborating. I’ve thought, “maybe I’m over; maybe I’ve said my piece”. But never with fear. Never with rancor. Because of y’all. Because you knew me when. If you think topping a box office record compares with someone telling you your work helped them through a rough time, you’re probably new here. (For the record, and despite my inhuman distance from the joy-joy of it: topping a box office record is super-dope. I’m an alien, not a robot.) So this is me, saying thank you. All of you. You’ve taken as much guff for loving my work as I have for over-writing it, and you deserve, in this our time of streaming into the main, to crow. To glow. To crow and go “I told you so”, to those Joe Blows not in the know. (LAST time I hire Dr. Seuss to punch my posts up. Yeesh!) Point being, you deserve some honor, AND you deserves some FAQs answered. So please welcome my old friend and certainly not-on-my-payroll reporter/flunky, Rutherford D. Actualperson!
RDA: So good to see you, young Joss! is it possible you’ve gotten more attractive since we last spoke, and less fungal in odor?
JW: Thanks for noticing. Let’s talk.
RDA: “the Scavengers” is a huge success! Does this mean you have changed the very fabric of existence?
JW: Dude, it’s just a movie. Also, yes.
RDA: I’ve seen a lot of a talk about “the Availers” vs “the Dark Knight Rises”. How will you feel if you’re eclipsed by Nolan?
JW: I’m glad I made you ask that. I will feel sad. But let’s look at the bigger picture, and I can’t say this enough: THIS IS NOT A ZERO SUM GAME. Our successes, whoever has the mostest, are a boon to each other. We’re in the business of proving that superhero movies aren’t just eye-candy (they’re eye-TRUFFLES!). People seem intent on setting us against each other, and though I’m proud to be Woody Strode to Nolan’s Kirk Douglas, I think they’re missing the point. Whatever TDKR does on its first weekend, the only stat that matters to me is the ticket I’M definitely buying. Nolan and Raimi INVENTED the true superhero flick, yo. (Special mention to Jon Favreau and James Gunn.) Happy to be in the mix.
RDA: What does this mean for your upcoming slate of tiny independent films/Internet shenanigans? Will they fall by the wayside?
JW: There may be new ideas realized — I always leave myself open to that — but my commitment to Wastelanders and Dr H.2 does not waver. Those stories bubble on my stove.
RDA: And TV?
JW: TV is my great love. To tell stories with that alacrity, intensity, and immediacy… Nothing quite like it. I imagine it’s not dissimilar to the feeling great poker players have: “Here’s what I got, here’s where I’m going… How to trick everybody into thinking I know what I’m doing?” [Full disclosure : Joss hates poker. He is probably talking about bridge. But it should apply nonetheless.].
RDA: What message would you give fans of “the Lavenders” who are not so familiar with your previous work?
JW: “Cabin In the Woods”: still in (some) theaters!
RDA: Is ‘the Ravengers” a perfect movie? It did get an A+ cinemascore…
JW: There are very few perfect movies. “The Court Jester”, “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”, “Godfather” I & II… The list does not go on and on. “The Avengers” is notably IMperfect, which makes its success mean so much more to me — because it’s striking a chord that matters MORE than its obvious flaws. Like the team, it appears to be more than the sun of its parts. Boo-yah!
RDA: What do you feel is the greatest achievement of “the Avoiders”?
JW: Getting “mewling quim” out there to the masses. Also, Hulk.
RDA: Anyone in particular you’d like to thank?
JW: [Reads from notecard]. I couldn’t have done this myself. Part of this Saturn Award belongs to Jeremy Latcham, Kevin Feige, and the fine Marvel folk… But the secret ingredient is my closest peeps: J-Mo, who did uncredited punch-up work (carrier battle, yo!), Z-bro, Drew “I am Loki only taller and foppier” Goddard, and Kai, all of whom worked the story with me. Without them (and Jeremy), I’d still be figuring out how the Wasp fits in to this, and where to put Red Hulk.
RDA: What’s next for Joss “finally got it right for a change” Whedon?
JW: Can we not call me that?
RDA: Just deal. Whut up?
JW: I really think we should discuss that nickname, but I’m finishing “Much Ado About Nothing” this month. If you liked “the Avengers”, you’ll love… I can’t. It’s Shakespeare. And not in the park. I hope it gets watched.
RDA: Any message to your precious “Whedonesk?”
JW: Whedonettes?
RDA: Weeble-eque?
JW: I’m not aware of that group.
RDA: Didn’t they know you when?
JW: I’m not sure who you mean. I’m discarding my old fans so I can concentrate on fame, Euro-trash guy-jewelry and my precious “Air Bud” reboot. But, dude, don’t print that!
RDA: You have my word.
So, that’s our post! Hope you enjoyed it. Hope you’ll continue to carry the banner even though other people may have joined the parade. (Kind of a gay pride/Newsies vibe: sentence accomplished!) Hope you understand how I feel. Cliff notes: grateful.
“Here’s to us. Who’s like us? Damn few”
— Stephen Sondheim, “Merrily We Roll Along”.“It took a dog playing Jai Alai to teach us humanity!”
–Me, in that awesome film I’m gonna make.-j., 5/9/12
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
June 1, 2012 at 8:01 am #31251Larkitect
ParticipantJune 1, 2012 at 3:24 pm #31245rob
ParticipantI could eat a peach for hours.
July 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm #31227Version3
KeymasterHey remember that time that Bucho asked us to record when we went to see the Avengers, and then I forgot to post it for like 3 or 4 weeks, but then I remembered and it was up
July 5, 2012 at 8:03 pm #31234Bucho
ParticipantOh I remember.
Oh I. Remember.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
August 21, 2012 at 7:11 am #31235Bucho
ParticipantAnyone for a gag reel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0TZcBjZSNM
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
October 23, 2012 at 12:59 am #31236Bucho
ParticipantDid you guys catch this thing from a week ago about Christoher Nolan’s lensman Wally Pfister criticising the Avengers for being badly shot?
Meeee-yowwww.
Joss Whedon’s response was, reportedly: “I’m sorry to hear it, I’m a fan (of Pfister)”.
I don’t think Joss is that sorry though. He’s still high on the fact that Rob Michaels prefered his film to Nolan’s anyway, and that’s what really matters.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
October 23, 2012 at 2:21 am #31246rob
ParticipantI do love me some Avengers, but Bane got in my head. I saw it 4 times in the theater, and I want to watch it really bad again just to see him goad Batman again. I love how he says “Members of the League of Shadows.” Listen below…3:20.
I do have to agree, to a certain extent about what ol’ Wally says, though – visually, The Avengers just isn’t that interesting compared to…well, any of Nolan’s movies, to be honest.
October 23, 2012 at 3:33 pm #31228Version3
KeymasterIt sounded so much better the second time we saw it. The first theater we say this in lacked the good mid-bass needed to pull this voice off, and it sounded muffled more than his voice already is.
October 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm #31247rob
ParticipantThat is true. I still think it’s weird that a one month old theater didn’t have their sound calibrated correctly. Or they’d already blown the speakers.
October 24, 2012 at 1:57 am #31237Bucho
Participant@rob 49810 wrote:
I do have to agree, to a certain extent about what ol’ Wally says, though – visually, The Avengers just isn’t that interesting compared to…well, any of Nolan’s movies, to be honest.]
I know I’m risking your love by saying this but as much as I really enjoyed Rises a lot I didn’t find it especially beautiful or even anything more than effectively shot. Admitedly I’m fresher on the trailers than the full films but I feel like a lot of the staging and composition in Rises borders on pedestrian and a lot of the time the lighting and colour palette leave the characters looking fairly flat. Maybe that’s the trade-off when you’re into the natural light game like Nolan and Pfister are with Rises.
The Avengers cinematography didn’t blow me away or anything but I felt like it was more effective at least in conveying image depth and letting the characters feel more alive on the screen. I think Nolan and Pfister have always struggled to show action scenes effectively too and Whedon and McGarvey pulled that stuff off well.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
October 24, 2012 at 5:57 pm #31238Bucho
ParticipantIron Man the 3rd looks heavy. Yes pun.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
October 25, 2012 at 6:24 pm #31229Version3
KeymasterI really think it looks like it could be the best of the three. It certainly should be better than the second, and that makes it a pretty good hero movie in my book.
November 16, 2012 at 8:46 pm #31239Bucho
ParticipantThe second was pretty bad so just being better than that won’t be enough to qualify it as a pretty good hero movie in my book. Although, to be honest, my book is mostly written in crayon, so don’t go by my book.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
November 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm #31230Version3
KeymasterI didn’t think the second was bad, just couldn’t measure up. It was watchable, I enjoyed it (even though it has tons of issues) and I’ve watched it since.
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