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October 27, 2011 at 1:38 am #3042
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ParticipantThis is an interesting and short article:
http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=678306>1=28101
I still say one of the problems with Lucas these days is before, when he would come up with an idea that wasn’t very good, there were probably people that would tell him so and help correct his idea. These days, he’s so big he can do all the writing himself and doesn’t have to listen to anyone else.
October 27, 2011 at 2:51 am #30641rob
ParticipantI’ve never once heard “nuked the fridge”…?
October 27, 2011 at 4:55 am #30642digitaltopia
ParticipantYeah I haven’t either. Maybe he hasn’t either, and that’s his way of trying to subtly push the phrase into usage.
October 27, 2011 at 8:01 am #30647Larkitect
Participantwe need to nip this in the bud right now. forget you ever heard “nuked the fridge”.
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October 27, 2011 at 8:48 am #30643digitaltopia
ParticipantOne thing I do like about this article is Spielberg seems to be admitting he actually hears the negative things said about Indy, unlike Lucas who doesn’t seem to hear any of the negative things said about Indy or Star Wars.
October 27, 2011 at 5:03 pm #30650ori-STUDFARM
Participant@rob 48174 wrote:
I’ve never once heard “nuked the fridge”…?
I have. A few times actually!
I never had any problem with the whole fridge nuking thing anyway. My only problems with Crystal Skull were the stupid CGI animals. The whole monkey swinging through the trees bit and the ending. It just didn’t seem to make much sense. Were the aliens malevolent or what?
BIG JOBBIESOctober 28, 2011 at 3:23 am #30648Larkitect
Participant@ori-STUDFARM 48209 wrote:
I have. A few times actually!
I never had any problem with the whole fridge nuking thing anyway. My only problems with Crystal Skull were the stupid CGI animals. The whole monkey swinging through the trees bit and the ending. It just didn’t seem to make much sense. Were the aliens malevolent or what?
i probably could have forgiven much of the movie if not for that cgi monkey part. all of a sudden we’re in a Tarzan vs. the Nazis movie?
i didn’t think the aliens were malevolent. the german chick got what she wanted. her mind just couldn’t take it. the aliens were probably aware of her motive and that it would kill her. i think it was more a matter of indifference.
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October 28, 2011 at 5:19 am #30644digitaltopia
ParticipantAs I was thinking about it, one of the things I liked about previous Indy movies is they were realistic. As in if that supernatural stuff really existed, that’s really how it would act, and yes some of the action was over-the-top, but the whole thing tended to have a much more realistic feel to it.
The new Indy movie is just a cartoon.
October 28, 2011 at 10:36 am #30640Bucho
ParticipantThe supernatural side of Indy was always my least favourite part. It’s kind of like what you said about movies all set in dreams or imagination. Raiders especially sets up this gritty, grimy adventure set in the “real world” and then a bunch of magic happens at the end.
And how do you fight the malevolent force? Close your eyes!!! What a weapon.
It’s still one of my favourite movies of EVER, but as someone who doesn’t care for non-comedy ghost movies it’s not my favourite third act climax ever.
In Temple Of Doom the supernatural nonsense works better because the whole movie – even though it’s darker in tone than Raiders and Crusade – somehow has a more cartoony feel. It’s sort of flippant and doesn’t draw me in dramatically in the same way as Raiders, so when it goes bonkers it’s less of a tonal shift.
It’s also the least bonkers supernaturality in Temple Of Doom too. When Raiders goes bonkers it goes crazy ape bonkers. When Crusade goes bonkers it’s significantly bonkers, but not as much as Raiders. But in Temple Of Doom it’s barely bonkers at all – just a few glowing stones, Indy in some kind of Voodou blood trance and a beating heart which bursts into flames. Any half-assed magician could pull that stuff off. Mola Ram was pretty much just a carnival act who had some big ideas above his station.
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October 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm #30651ori-STUDFARM
Participant@digitaltopia 48227 wrote:
As I was thinking about it, one of the things I liked about previous Indy movies is they were realistic. As in if that supernatural stuff really existed, that’s really how it would act, and yes some of the action was over-the-top, but the whole thing tended to have a much more realistic feel to it.
The new Indy movie is just a cartoon.
I don’t think any of the first 3 Indy movies is any more or less realistic than Crystal Skull. We’ve got ghosts/angels in the first and exploding heads and melting faces. The second has hearts being sucked out of chests and rail carts that jump off tracks and land perfectly miles away on another entirely different track along with some kind of zombie mind control. The third is probably the least believable with a 700 year old knight and bad guys who age into dust in mere seconds.
I never understood the anti Crystal Skull argument of “it wasn’t realistic enough”. Never made sense to me
BIG JOBBIESOctober 28, 2011 at 6:09 pm #30645digitaltopia
ParticipantI think what it comes down to, at least for me and some of the other people you hear complaining about the new Indy, is the new Indy with the alien stuff has a significantly different feel for us than the original Indy with the supernatural stuff.
October 28, 2011 at 6:36 pm #30652ori-STUDFARM
ParticipantThere’s a lot I liked about it too. I liked the whole Indy years later taking on Russians instead of Nazi’s. The swinging through the windscreen in the warehouse was fun. CGI ants were shit though! Nearly as bad as the monkeys!
BIG JOBBIESOctober 28, 2011 at 6:55 pm #30646digitaltopia
ParticipantAfter this, I want Indy to take on an army of feminists as he tries to save a bra.
November 4, 2011 at 4:07 am #30649Larkitect
Participantoh man, just saw that i remembered wrong. indy was fighting the russians in the fourth movie.
so if i had realized it was Tarzan vs. the Russians the monkey scene would have been fine.
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