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Bryan and Rob talk movies again, because it’s what they do.
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- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
i almost wet myself. i didn’t even see this one downloading.
this has been the best month ever.
My essence still senses Bucho's women.
I’m just now noticing that I forgot to go back and apply a lens blur to the layer with the seats in it. So now, for some dome reason the people are appropriately blurry, but all of the seats are in focus.
By the way, this show annoys me. But only in the parts where my mouth is moving and sound won’t stop coming out.
Before you start talking about The Fountain Bryan, you say you think I’m is going to have steam coming out of my head when I hear what you’re about to say but you must be mixing me up with someone else. I still haven’t seen it.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
Yeah, I really must. I thought it was you that was totally gushing on here about how much fantastic happens in the front of your pants when you see it.
What I love about your take on cinematic malarky Bryan, is your perspective feels not just very well considered and articulated but also somewhat unique. I listen to my share of film podcasts and I read my share of film writing and even though you’re not a pro at it, it’s obvious you know your shit and have a strong point of view and a sharply analytical mind and it’s always uberentertaining to hear for those reasons but above and beyond that you make arguments that I don’t hear being thrown around by other people – like for the greatness of Kathy Bates or the stupidity of zombies or how cool Qui Gon Jin’s light saber fighting stance is. If you guys ever did another 24 hour show and it was all movie talk I’d be more than happy with it.
I’m generally not a fan of monster films either but a couple of things popped into my head during that part of the show. One was that originally I think zombies were a Haitian thing, something to do with Voodou priests and poisons and potions and hypnotism, and Indy in Temple Of Doom always made me think of what a more realistic zombie would be like.
The other was of rabies and the way that disease was probably the basis for the rage virus in the 24 Hours/Days Later films. Rabies makes its victims hyperaggressive during the late stages and in those acts of aggression it is the biting and puncturing of skin and flesh which transfer the virus to its next host. It’s similar to the way that ant virus takes over the ant’s brain.
There’s a nice bed time story for the kids at Halloween.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
It all made sense except for the zombie bashing. Zombie’s are just another monster. They don’t have to make sense, they’re made up. It’s fine to simply say “Not really my cup of tea” and be done. I personally love zombie movies. Living ones, dead ones, fast moving or slow lumbering…
…and when the zombie apocalypse does come, I pity you. For shall not know how to survive 🙂
Great show guys
BIG JOBBIES@ori-STUDFARM 48089 wrote:
That sounds like Digi….or Lark….or-HELL! It could be any one of us fuckers right!?
I still haven’t seen The Fountain. Stub saw it and my question to him was, “What about all that super-futuristic sci-fi stuff with them floating around in bubbles?” And he said, “Oh that didn’t really happen. They were just kind of imagining it, like telling a story.” So that was enough for me. No need to see it.
It bugs me when movies do something that’s sci-fi or fantasy and play it off as just imagination. For instance, Bridge to Terabithia was annoying on many levels, and one of things I really didn’t like about it was the fact that all the monsters and magic and stuff were just imaginary. If you’re going to have fantasy or sci-fi in a movie, it should be real in the context of and setting of that movie.
It’s a similar thing to the Bladerunner scene in Back to Earth.
So for me, I don’t care how spectacular the visuals in the movie are, if it’s just imagination, if it’s outside of the actual storyline itself, I just don’t care and have no interest in seeing the movie.
@Bucho 48119 wrote:
One was that originally I think zombies were a Haitian thing, something to do with Voodou priests and poisons and potions and hypnotism, and Indy in Temple Of Doom always made me think of what a more realistic zombie would be like.
Yes. There’s a recent Indy book that actually explores this concept. It’s called… Indy and the Black Pearl? Let me look it up. Oh, Indiana Jones and the Army of the Dead. He goes into Haiti and has to deal with Voodoo priests and a bunch of zombies and stuff. The book itself is meh, but it actually has a lot of interesting background and history on Voodoo stuff.
@digitaltopia 48133 wrote:
It bugs me when movies do something that’s sci-fi or fantasy and play it off as just imagination.
Same here. It reduces the stakes of the action to the point the whole story seems almost pointless.
I think Inception is one exception to the rule because the Nolans found a fairly solid way to tie the real world stakes into the dream world action, but even the action in that movie feels significantly more lightweight to me than something like the Bourne films or even The Matrix, which is also a kind of dream-action deal for at least part of the action. And while it wasn’t widely appreciated, for me Where The Wild Things Are was another exception because it tapped into what it was like to be an angry young kid, trying to understand the world at time of life when imagination is at its most powerful. But in general I don’t like dream or imagination-based films either.
And yet I still do feel like I want to see The Fountain one day just because some fellow movie dorks – Rob being one of them – whose viewpoints I respect say it’s worth watching and I like the shared experience and the conversations that come out of it.
@ori-STUDFARM 48127 wrote:
It all made sense except for the zombie bashing. Zombie’s are just another monster. They don’t have to make sense, they’re made up. It’s fine to simply say “Not really my cup of tea” and be done. I personally love zombie movies. Living ones, dead ones, fast moving or slow lumbering…
I don’t typically gravitate toward monster movies of any kind but I think they can potentialy work well without hashing out some 28 Weeks Later-esque “scientific” backstory if they stick to telling the story from the point of view of a group of non-scientists.
If the story is told from the point of view of a few average Joes and Janes then there’s no reason they’d know or understand the reason for some freak beast occurence and the audience following only their point of view would have no reason to know either. Part of the terror comes from not knowing exactly what’s hunting you or why. In fact not knowing is potentially more scary than knowing because it makes it that much more dificult to combat the creature.
I wasn’t much of a Cloverfield fan but I thought one of the things they did right was not explaining where the monster came from. Where it comes from is not the story. The story’s not about the monster, it’s about this group of average people. The fact I was bored by the people in Cloverfield doesn’t change the fact I thought the overall idea of the film was solid.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
That Bladerunner scene was played in every promo and trailer…..and yes! It was a bloody insult when we were shown it. It had no part in the main story what so ever!
BIG JOBBIES@ori-STUDFARM 48135 wrote:
That Bladerunner scene was played in every promo and trailer…..and yes! It was a bloody insult when we were shown it. It had no part in the main story what so ever!
Where The Creator really got that idea was probably from something that occurred in Series Nine.
@digitaltopia 48133 wrote:
I still haven’t seen The Fountain. Stub saw it and my question to him was, “What about all that super-futuristic sci-fi stuff with them floating around in bubbles?” And he said, “Oh that didn’t really happen. They were just kind of imagining it, like telling a story.” So that was enough for me. No need to see it.
I don’t know how to explain it, but a movie like that is more than just the setting…I think you do yourself a disservice by not taking the time to take a movie like that in. It’s so rare to have a movie like this…one so divisive, one so challenging, one so breathtaking on so many levels. Of course, there’s still a chance that you won’t like it – as I have said, it’s pretty divisive – but that’s the fun of movies, especially one that doesn’t try to preach to you or spoonfeed every detail to you. As Bryan said, he’s still a fan of the movie, if nothing else but on a technical level. As you can tell, I love it.
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