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This is what I’ve taken from all of this so far – nobody’s got it perfect yet, and we’re all swimming in unknown waters. Don’t think for a second that I’m done – I’m totally not, but I just need some time.
I think Bryan’s got a point with the analyzation-factor. It probably isn’t as natural, but I gotta say, I was so interested in what you were saying that it didn’t occur to me until he said it. I think we should just all do more. You know, in the spirit of adventure. Like Robinson Crusoe and his friend Ugly Paco.
I don’t know shit about Robinson Crusoe in all honesty, and I highly doubt there’s ever been an Ugly Paco in literature. But there should be, and that’s my point.
Yeah, now I’ve watched it a couple of times I definitely see what you guys mean about introducing the movie feeling redundant. I should have watched it a couple of times before I published it and I would have seen that. It’s dumb too, because here I am yapping about how I want these things to be lean and yet I load a whole bunch of fat right up front like a real dipshit.
For me… This one felt over-thought. It has the feel like you listened to and analyzed your other one, then tried to fit every less than superficial though you had about it.
“Analyzed” is probably too strong a word because it implies actual thought but I get what you mean. The reason it feels like I tried to fit in every less than superficial thought from the first one is that the notes for the first one had exactly the same points. I didn’t record the second with the aim of really saying anything different, more that I thought I could say the same things differently and be happier with the result.
… the way you go about explaining it this time feels like you’ve complicated what you want to say just a touch. It makes it a bit confusing to be in the car with your ‘old buddy Bucho have him telling you about it in friendly terms, then get to the heart of it thought out and bounce back to funny. It’s almost like you are talking to more than one audience.
I mostly get what you mean. I’m trying to make sure I have more than just goofiness in these – to make actual valid points that sound like they come from someone who knows what they’re talking about – but just like the film itself I probably don’t have a good handle on the balance of tone yet.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
@rob 51071 wrote:
This is what I’ve taken from all of this so far – nobody’s got it perfect yet, and we’re all swimming in unknown waters. Don’t think for a second that I’m done – I’m totally not, but I just need some time.
Ah, thank fuck! I thought for several seconds you’d already given up on the dream.
Good old comedic misunderstandings.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I’ll leave figuring it out to you guys. I haven’t found anything worth making while goofing off with this so far.
The mood just strikes me once in a while to shoot stuff with the GoPro, but rarely does that turn into anything worth while.
Thinking about the tone thing, maybe the perfect middle ground between “natural” and “performance” is something like May or Clarkson do on Top Gear, where they’re filmed driving and yapping without much affectation, but it’s still clearly a presentation rather than a faux-conversation. The thoughts they’re putting across feel prepared and organised rather than loose and free-wheeling, but not so organised and prepared it feels dry, as if they’re delivering a lecture like they’re the world authority on the subject.
The problem for me is those guys are pros who’ve developed their chops with years of experience at hitting that perfect presentational-but-charismatic tone and I have very little faith in my ability to hit that note. It’d be hard enough to do it on stage like they do in their studio segments, but then to do it while behind the wheel also? That’s a challenge upon a challenge for me. I think you could do it Rob, and I think Bryan could if he cared enough to, but it’s much further away from anything in my skillset or experience.
And it’s almost impossible for me to do these in my “natural speaking rhythm” because, like you saw in the Riding With Bucho vids, when I don’t stick to a plan my brain sends me off on tangent after tangent, which is a shithouse way to deliver a movie review. So when you see my pause-filled, halting speech during the reviews, that’s probably because my brain is trying to send me on a tangent and I’m processing that and pushing the tangent thought away to try to stay on track with the original point. Either that or it’s because I’m trying to make a driving decision at the same time as I try to make a cogent point. Or it’s just because my brain is too slow to come up with the right word to put in the right place on the fly. I’m not exactly bristling with mental firepower over here.
But whatever it is, that pause-filled, halting speech is also a shithouse way to deliver a movie review, which is why I end up chopping the pauses and stutters, so what I end up delivering is not “natural” Bucho, but that’s because “natural” Bucho doesn’t cut it. I can’t watch “natural” Bucho myself, so I’m not going to put it out there expecting anyone else to enjoy it.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
So by “thinking”, I clearly meant “overthinking”. I think there might be a point in there somewhere though.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I get what you’re trying to say, but I think to Bryan’s point, the fact that you’re driving gives you a bit of leeway, so there’s no need to be perfect, you’re fucking driving and dodging big ol’ lizards and shit, it’s okay, you know?
My whole thing is if I’m going to do this, I want to break the whole “reviews should be like this” thing, and just do it my own damn way.
–Which is why I starting pointing out natural in the first place. Here’s the thing. We are riding with our ‘ole buddy Bucho. You have your goofy style, where you are relaxed, you are yourself and you are throwing in some entertainment. You do a great job of expanding on stuff with comedy when you don’t know it. Just by the words you choose to explain some things; the bit about Matt Damon trying to get the life regenerating thing works wonderfully (even though it’s in that summary).
Don’t compare yourself to Top Gear, or any reviewist that’s out there. you aren’t trying to do what they are doing, and although you find the Top Gear guys funny, your brand of humor isn’t like theirs, so don’t emulate them in any way. It’s a trap.
You can get serious, and you get to some detailed points; just don’t stop talking to your friends while you are doing it. You set that tone at the outset, and you wrap up with it. Losing it in the middle (I’m only talking about that latest cut by the way) to all the things you think you need to say, or are supposed to say just makes me lose my connection. I like much of what you had to say, it just felt very different than the package you were delivering it in.
I couldn’t do this stuff, I can just tell you what I think about it when I see it. That’s the extent of my abilities.
Your feedback will be taken into consideration chaps.
Meanwhile, I leaned up the latest review. Is it “natural”? Nope. But I can watch it more than once, so that’s something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBW1c9_Cisg
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
Hey Robby, just want to let you know ahead of time my next one will be The World’s End too. Not that it probably matters to you, just that now it’s my turn to feel like I might be stepping on your toes, even though it’s just the latest movie I saw too. I haven’t even recorded it yet so it probably won’t be up for a couple of days, but I feel like I should say this ahead of time for some reason. You saying you think you couldn’t do it as well as the ones I’ve done so far makes it sound like a competition, and that’d be a shite state-of-affairs. At most, to further belabour the metaphor I’ve already run into the ground, I’d think we’d be training partners, and this double-up should just end up in both of us learning more and getting better at this whole dealio.
I will spoil ahead of time and say I’m close to giving this another 7/10 and trying to think of reasons not to, because if everything is 7/10 I’ll start losing faith in my own system, and everyone knows the entire point of reviews is to reduce art criticism to metrics. It mostly revolves around loving everything about the film except for how much of an unforgiveably tedious cunt Gary is, and trying to see the conclusion of his arc as oddly upliftingly as I think Wright and Pegg meant to be taken, rather than as the depressing return to the status quo I see it as. I’ve read some valiant attempts to justify it already, but no convincing ones.
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I still haven’t seen it, dammit. I’m probably going to try to see it tomorrow. I don’t see it as competition at all, because I think we’ll both have some reasoned arguments to back up our points, and I’m sure we’ll both do our best, right?
I’m actually coming up with an idea for a show about the casting of Affleck as Batman as well.
I have seen it. Not sure I want to record words about it, but maybe I’ll throw my 0.02 in the bucket on of your video commentaries.
I told Rob, but a desk or two away at work, we’ve got Franco’s Reagan shirt, and skullcap worn in the movie, as well as a poster (that main movie one with all of them squished in it) signed by Robinson, Baruchel, Rogen, Hill, Franco and McBride… so complete. Kinda cool. Oh, and Franco is a little dude, because that shirt if fucking tiny.
You’re thinking of This Is The End Captain. I’m doing The World’s End. Not to be confused with At World’s End or Seeking A Friend For The End Of The World or Howard’s End or Howard The Duck.
@rob 51087 wrote:
I don’t see it as competition at all …
GOOD! Then let’s have no more of this “See I don’t think I can do it as well as your hairy ass Bucho” nonsense! My hairy ass can barely speak English for Pete’s sake.
@rob 51087 wrote:
I’m actually coming up with an idea for a show about the casting of Affleck as Batman as well.
ALSO GOOD! For an audio episode! Unless you have something specifically visual in mind that is, because I’m still way behind on trying to watch all these SOS videos that’ve been sprouting like sprouting things. And like Gary from The World’s End [… spoiler]I have to make everything about my needs[/spoiler].
- Women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
Yes you are right, I’ve done that SEVERAL times now. And it’s not even because I don’t know the titles. For some reason I just keep reading the other title in it’s place. To my knowledge, I haven’t made that mistake in conversation… but I make it constantly when reading.
I keep thinking World’s End doesn’t come out for a few more weeks. Hard to believe it’s almost Sept. Hard to believe I’ve been gone 4 months already.
I have no idea when I’ll get to go watch Worlds End… I probably won’t see it until I see it at home.
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