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in the spirit of full disclosure for avatar fans, yes i do have a fantastic love for ridley scott and his films.
ridley scott says he wants his new alien prequel to surpass avatar. if surpass means more money at the box office then i doubt it. if surpass means in every other way then i have no doubts.
the one issue i have is that they describe scott as “the gladiator mastermind” as if he hasn’t done far better movies between now and 10 years ago.
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I like it. I like that he felt like the bar was raised and he needs to exceed it. The fact that he said that just reminds me of why I like Ridley so much.
They chose Gladiator, because the sheep can read too. Let’s face it, when that mediocre movie was out, it was practically the period on every sentence uttered in this country: “Hey, John… you wanna go with us to lunch today Gladiator?” or “I know you want to go out tonight with your friends, but you have responsibilities and I’m tired of reminding you to take out the trash… Gladiator!” and of course the more common “cum in my ass, cum in my ass Gladiator!”. I’m just glad the movie hype is over so that I don’t have to hear this stuff anymore.
Maybe this one will interest me more than the others.
Others? I know you’re not a fan of Gladiator and the Alien movies, but a lot of his others are awesome – like Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner —
Bryan about hype:
This shit drives me batty too. I remember movies like the Charlies Angels, Godzilla, Mission Impossible…blahblahblah. I’m not making a statement on the movies (never saw them actually) but the hype machine burrows into my brain and disturbs my ability to “get my sane on”
That’s my new thing I’m never going to do something again, it’ll all be getting my so and so on. I give it a month before it sickens me to tears and I have to kill it with a boulder.
But yeah that Ridley dude is like way awesome and shit man!
@Version3 44697 wrote:
They chose Gladiator, because the sheep can read too. Let’s face it, when that mediocre movie was out, it was practically the period on every sentence uttered in this country: “Hey, John… you wanna go with us to lunch today Gladiator?” or “I know you want to go out tonight with your friends, but you have responsibilities and I’m tired of reminding you to take out the trash… Gladiator!” and of course the more common “cum in my ass, cum in my ass Gladiator!”. I’m just glad the movie hype is over so that I don’t have to hear this stuff anymore.
Maybe this one will interest me more than the others.
sometimes your stream-of-consciousness is an amazing sight to behold. 🙂
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I think his natural home is still sci-fi so this sounds good to me.
@rob 44700 wrote:
Others? I know you’re not a fan of Gladiator and the Alien movies, but a lot of his others are awesome – like Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner —
God damn, everyone says it’s great but I still haven’t gotten my useless ass into gear to see that Kingdom of Heaven director’s cut. My film-dorkery feels incomplete without having seen that one.
I watched Blade Runner again a year or so ago and I don’t think it holds up so well anymore. It still has great stuff in it in terms of world-building and effects but as an overall film a lot of the dialogue and acting seems pretty ropey to me now.
But I admire Black Hawk Down more and more as time passes. Having seen it four or five times now I’ve come to consider that one of the great war films, and yet it seems not to be widely considered in the same league as the likes of Full Metal Jacket and Saving Private Ryan.
Matchstick Men from 2003 is a really good film too, underrated now that Nic Cage has become something of a punchline, but it also features the always awesome Sam Rockwell and a pretty neat con-men story.
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Oh, I like that one, but I kinda feel like there are a lot more directors that could have done that one…the directing’s sort of pedestrian. Alien, though…now THAT’S a movie.
Yeah good point. Matchstick Men is great but it doesn’t really have his stamp on it.
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[To self]Man, it sure would be great if one time Rob was driving home and did a bunch of yapping about the ins and outs of his favourite Ridley Scott movies one of these days …[/To self]
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@Larkitect 44706 wrote:
sometimes your stream-of-consciousness is an amazing sight to behold. 🙂
I lolled out loudly too.
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@rob 44700 wrote:
Others? I know you’re not a fan of Gladiator and the Alien movies, but a lot of his others are awesome – like Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner —
Easy jackholes… I made a stream of consciousness leap that may have been hard to follow, but you should already know that I like nearly all of his movies. Even watched the newer Robin Hood today and liked it for reasons outside of why I didn’t have any interest in it to begin with.
By others, I was moving past the Ridley part of this thread and just focusing on the Alien series… and that’s the “others” I was referring. -the jump being that they weren’t all his of course.
Now, I can move on to other stuff here…
Still have not seen Kingdom of Heaven… can’t tell you why, maybe it was the huge amount of similar period movies out around then that turned me off to it, but I skipped it on purpose. But I’ll see about getting it in front of my eyes very soon.
For me, the problem is he is a great film maker, that sometimes just ends up making some ho-hum movies, mostly due to story. But the look and the way they translate to screen always works for me. Alien… I’m quite sure that it’s HER that ruined it for me the first time through. I really can’t stand her, I don’t find her to be a particularly good actress, and I’ll always hold it against every movie she is in that anyone regards her as an amazing actress, or pretty/hot/gorgeous or any of that shit. The rest is because it’s never hooked with me, likely as a result of not liking it from the get go. So, we can just blame Sagourney Weaver for it. But the look of that film, I’ll not deny was fantastic.
Blade Runner… what’s the point. It’s hard to find anyone to disagree on this film, so I’ll just move on.
Black Rain. Suck movie. I can definitely see ‘it’ in there to an extent, but I still never liked it at all. Of course, I didn’t have any interest in who made it until years and years later. Thelma and Louise is an interesting one to discuss, because although I hate the movie’s premise, the outcome and the (at times)overacted female leads, it’s one of the movies that doesn’t look so much like a RS movie, but the talent direction totally has it. I’d say the ONLY reason people should ever watch this movie is because it was directed and presented well.
GI Jane and Gladiator are both the same thing for me… blasé stories, with mediocre acting, put together with a polished look, that result in top notch watchability. But I still like neither of them.
Black Hawk Down did not do it for me. I’ve not rewatched it, I think I expected something different, and just felt like the movie was nearing it’s end, and I looked away for .5 seconds and the credits were rolling. I can’t really say that I dislike it, I just didn’t like it when I saw it.
Matchstick Men is one like T&L… the movie itself not so good (although I do enjoy this one), but the talent direction, story progression and such have “it”. I probably like this movie more because of how well Cage’s character was thought out, and not so much as how it was played. -that and I like watching anything with Sam Rockwell in it… who doesn’t?
Body of Lies was a decent watch, but I had the same feeling I do from some of the other movies in this list… well executed, mediocre film. I never watched American Gangster, it just didn’t interest me.
So I think the issue for me (and the reason that I don’t go all nutty for Ridley Scott films) is not that I don’t know for a fact that the guy is gold, is that, for me at least, he doesn’t grab gold movies. He gets polished steel movies, and packages them up like gold films… and every once in a while, it turns out it was an actual gold movie to start. I just don’t think he hits nearly as much, as the fanbase that his style (and the monumental achievements that he HAS had) brings together, want to believe.
You know me, skills for any one “ingredient” aside… if the movie fails to truly entertain me, or grab me… it will not likely rise to a status that gets me all worked up. -Like Avatar. So bringing this full-circle, I have no doubt that setting his sights there is a good place to start, I just hope the story and the dialogue are better, and that we aren’t looking at an exceptional execution, of a run of the mill movie.
@Bucho 44712 wrote:
Yeah good point. Matchstick Men is great but it doesn’t really have his stamp on it.
agree with this. and though most of the effects shots in blade runner may not have aged well i’ve always enjoyed it more as a noir piece than sci-fi. plus i absolutely love the vangelis score.
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