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  • #940
    digitaltopia
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    If the COPE Act passes, the Internet is in trouble, regardless of what system you use. This article explains it quite well.

    http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060508#opinion.

    #11816
    Version3
    Keymaster

    I had seen some of this discussion recently, but had not seen a plain words description yet. I will probably bring this up on a show soon… I won’t kill the funny to do it, but it seems appropriate since our brand of content would be destroyed by this act.

    #11822
    rob
    Participant

    Let’s kill them.

    #11823
    djohnson
    Participant

    While I agree that this new legislation would be detrimental, I don’t know that it would be as bad as everyone is saying. One of the examples used in the article is the power for AOL to start blocking MSN, etc. I don’t think that even if AOL had the power to do this, that they would. I mean, talk about alienating your user-base. I think people would just get fed up and vote with their wallets by choosing an ISP that doesn’t do such onerous things.

    While I agree that this law should not be allowed to pass, I don’t know that it’s deserving of the “Chicken Little” syndrome that it seems to be getting.

    And yes, we should kill them all and while we’re at it, the RIAA and MPAA too! 😈

    #11833
    digitaltopia
    Participant

    Your argument is, “Just because they could, I don’t think they would.” Why give them the opportunity to make that choice? Why give them the power at all?

    #11817
    Version3
    Keymaster

    Some of the articles use the word ‘block’ too much… I can see this resulting in ‘family’ targeted providers like AOL blocking (completely) access to known porn sites. But the major thing is bandwidth throttling. If Comcast Cable has a media delivery agreement with a studio or a media content company, part of the agreement could include the limited bandwidth tranfer of it’s competitors. Or, even worse, A cable company might decide that podcasts are bad for business, and you may end up with dial-up transfer speeds of the switched:ON Show, while you have plenty of bandwidth available to watch exclusive trailers and behind the scenes footage provided by the content partner.

    Imagine what it would be like if the roads were handed over to corporate America… do you want GM deciding not only where you can go with your car, but if you happen to be going toward a Ford sponsored roadway, or a freeway that Clearchannel has a billboard agreement with Ford… a competitor of your auto manufacturer, or auto provider. -you’ll be limited by hitting every red light imaginable, and be forced to do it on a one lane over-crowded road.

    It’s very bad for the internet, it will cease to be a public resource, with companies capitolizing only on it’s delivery of the open resource. Now they should make money on the resources themselves (by pushing their stuff and hiding others) AND the delivery? Fuck them. Fuck them up their stupid asses.

    #11832
    digitaltopia
    Participant

    Amen. I wrote my senator and congressman about this.

    #11827
    Pa-ul
    Participant

    In the UK we currently have in place, but not everybody knows about, black boxes at most, if not all of, the ISPs. These black boxes record every site you visit, everything you download via SPI (stateful packet inspection) and quite possibly a keylogger for everything you type over the net (even this), tempting to put in words like Bin Laden, Bomb and a few others (If I’m not online for over a month, then I’m probably in some secret prison getting my rectum stretched by a trucker called Rose).

    This was set in place to log innapropriate images, videos and content download.

    My guess is It can also monitor everything else.

    I may be from the UK, but, is the US first ammendment the freedom of speech (we may not be getting it).

    (AND DISCUSS)


    If it doesn’t work, jam a screwdriver in there and jiggle it about.

    #11821
    ROSS
    Participant

    Holy crap! I didnt know about this! I take it that it would have to be really serious shit that they would have to find you looking at or saving to your computer, because, I mean how come my friend isnt getting totally screwed by the authorities for having dozens of pirated films and more illegally downloaded mp3’s than you can possibly imagine? So is their main focus on terrorism and not copyright and fraud?

    #11826
    Pa-ul
    Participant

    It’s not really the pirated films that they are aiming for, so you are right in that department. It’s mainly the terrorism and child pornography rings that these black boxes are aimed at, looking for keywords and access to certain sites.

    But hey, what’s to stop them using a system that’s already in place for other uses.

    Question : If you were a Government agency and found that you could use this technology to track anything, whould you? ❓


    If it doesn’t work, jam a screwdriver in there and jiggle it about.

    #11820
    ROSS
    Participant

    I gota admit, I probably would!

    #11835
    Scatt
    Participant

    Everyone just loves fucking everything up for fucking everyone in every fucking way imaginable. Misanthropes revolt!! (but stay the fuck away from me)

    #11825
    Pa-ul
    Participant
    Scatt wrote:
    Everyone just loves fucking everything up for fucking everyone in every fucking way imaginable. Misanthropes revolt!! (but stay the fuck away from me)

    Until somebody turns up at your door and says “Boo”

    I wholeheartedly agree, snooping in on some things is a big No!No!. Well as the saying goes “Where there is a will, there is way”. Bound to be some loophole that you can sue a government for a lot of money for snooping on you, more in the states than anywhere else.

    You have the right to bear arms, we in the UK have the right to shoot Welsh people with a crossbow. 😯

    Providing you are in a certain part of the country, and under the supervision of a member of the clergy.


    If it doesn’t work, jam a screwdriver in there and jiggle it about.

    #11831
    digitaltopia
    Participant

    With Amazon and Google and the open-source community taking notice of this, hopefully things will turn out favorably.

    #11824
    Pa-ul
    Participant
    digitaltopia wrote:
    In response to Pa-ul, what a lot of people all over the world probably don’t understand about the US, is that once upon a time, the Constitution was solid, and that’s how it was for a long time. But now, politicians use it as just a guideline, and nothing more. At least it seems that way.

    Constitiutions and laws get changed by the powers that be.

    For some reason they neglect to tell the rest of the population what is now law, and what is not.


    If it doesn’t work, jam a screwdriver in there and jiggle it about.

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