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  • #1116
    Frank
    Participant

    Okay, so after promising myself from the beginning that I would not spend money on going to see Cloverfield, I went ahead and did it anyway.

    WARNING: IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE, STOP READING NOW! SPOILAGE O’PLENTY COMING UP.

    Now, after saying that I thought this was going to be Blair Witch Meets Godzilla, it was nice to see that I was only partially right. It was like Blair Witch on a case of Red Bull Meets Godzilla. That being said, for those of you who have seen this movie, can you please help me clear a few things up that’s driving me crazy/pissing me off.

    1.) The girl who got bitten … did she explode or did they shoot her?
    2.) At what point do you say, “Hey, there’s a giant monster destroying the city, people are dying … I’ve got to videotape this. No matter what happens, I’ve got to keep this camera rolling!”
    3.) What kinda of fucking camera were they using? Given that all of this, from the start of the party until the end, lasts around 8 to 10 hours, it was condensed to about an hour and a half. The camera was dropped, blood was splattered on it, it was dropped from about 80 feet or so and yet it still kept recording. I’m thinking about getting a new camera and apparently this is the one I need to buy.
    4.) The monster looked as if it kinda used all four legs to walk, so to speak. So, did it bite the head off the Statue of Liberty and then throw it? It looked like the monster was just ransacking everything, but I never saw him throw anything. What happened there?
    5.) The very beginning of the movie says “This is footage found from what used to be Central Park.” That told me two things: 1-Everything in New York pretty much got destroyed and, 2-No one survived to tell the story. So right away, I knew that was coming. Although I’m guessing that the brother who died’s girlfriend made it in the first helicopter.
    6.) Speaking of helicopters, when they blasted the monster, the helicopter they were in had to be about 150 or so feet in the air (at least). So when the military blasted the hell out of the monster, he jumped up and smacked the helicopter just because? On top of that, has anyone seen a helicopter that high up crash land and not explode? Instead, the copter crashes and the only one killed is the pilot.
    7.) The girl who was impaled (the one they had to kill themselves to rescue) had been bleeding from the beginning. When they lifted her off the rebarb, the amount of blood loss would have been extremely significant. Yet, she was able to climb over to the other building, run downstairs, help carry a guy with an apparent broken leg (after the copter crash) and doesn’t even lose the color in her cheeks. By the sheer will of God, amazingly she must have the healing capabilities of Wolverine, otherwise she would have died.
    8.) Where the fuck did this monster come from? What the fuck were the giant tick-like buggers falling off of him? How can we pin this on Iran and North Korea? On top of that, the monster was hit with several bombs, including what had to have been a 500 pound bomb and it didn’t even break the skin. What the fuck is this thing made of anyway?
    9.) Rob, maybe you can help me a little on this one (since you work at Sprint). After 9/11, you could not call anywhere in New York City. I know, I had a friend up there and all lines where either down or busy. Yet, this guy was able to call his girlfriend (if you will), check his voicemail and get a call from his mother to tell her that her son and his brother was dead. On top of that, his battery died, so he ran over and stole a brand new battery and apparently it came fully charged. I’m not an expert on cell phones, in particular Nokias, since they obviously paid a lot of money to have their brand plastered everywhere in this movie, but since when did cell phone batteries come with a full charge?
    10.) What happened at the end? When you see debris falling on the super-deluxe camera (which doesn’t smash and keeps filming) you hear the guy say “Look at me, look at me, I love you.” Then you hear the girl say, “I love you, too.” And that’s it. Does the monster smash the bridge? Does the military carpet bomb New York? Does the military finally kill the monster, who falls on the bridge, killing the two lovers? Or does the monster get so fed up with the plot that he decides to go attack the people on the island in Lost? Basically, what the fuck?

    Okay, there are my 10 questions. Feel free to answer as honestly as you’d like or you can be a smartass and come up with some funny shit. Either way, it would help me deal with the loss of the money I just spent watching this piece of shit movie.

    #13370
    Version3
    Keymaster

    I saw it in… uh, lower quality. But here is what I think about these questions:

    1. She exploded. No way they shot her, they were trying to move her out before it happened, the screaming was accompanied by too much “what’s happening?!?” type dialog, so I think she popped.
    2. At the point the plot and entire movie’s purpose depend on it.
    3. It has the pre-release MacBook Air battery on it.
    4. The director really needed something dramatic to happen, but needed to do it without explaining, so it came from off-camera. Haha, I figured it just hit it.
    5. I don’t think everyone died, but it would be the only ‘valid’ account of what happened… or I guess record of it. 9-11 wasn’t so different, all of the interviews in the world tell less story than a few second of the plane hitting the building, or either tower falling. I just assumed that it tells more story than anything else would have.
    6. The monster hitting the copter is stupid. Stupid. But, contrary to what movies have you believe, things don’t all explode when things go wrong, in fact, most planes and copters do NOT explode on impact. They are designed not to. People have survived them before, it even happened in our metro area a few months back or something.
    7. Yeah, they carry adrenaline WAY too far in movies… it always annoys me.
    8. Goofy monster flick… they all suck in that respect, ALL of them. The armor is made of pure movietonium.
    9. Well, the bits on the bridge and such were stupid, but if the people were all evacuated, then the cells (assuming they were online) might be available for calls? NYC has TONS of cell towers to cover that city. It’s capacity IS huge, but no way it would have worked during the bridge sequence… too many people using. Many batteries come with a great deal of charge on them, Spring phones used to all come fully charged at one time. Not so much now but many of them still have some charge out of the package.
    10. I assumed that the monster crashed on the bridge, or the military blew it up. I was just glad they died.

    #13391
    El Rustirino
    Participant

    Well, Bryan answered them all…in a more insulting way than I would have liked, but pretty honestly nonetheless.

    I might answer them myself (I saw it twice) when I get home.

    #13382
    Frank
    Participant

    What was insulting about what he said? I didn’t feel insulted.

    #13371
    Version3
    Keymaster

    Yeah Rusty, what’s up with that?

    #13373
    rob
    Participant

    I think maybe Rusty is taking your comments to mean that if you like this movie, then you’re an idiot. There have been many times that I myself have alienated someone because of my comments about how much I think a movie might suck, or even better, how some small detail is just stupid and takes me out of the movie.

    I think more than that, Bryan has a harder time than most with the suspension of belief, not because he’s not able to, but he’s very critical with movies, and we share that feeling. Most of the time, the little shit bothers me, too, but I usually comment on the really big problems. And of course, Bryan was able to pinpoint more of his annoyances by the bulleted questions posed by Frank.

    Now, with the battery thing, according to most manufacturers, they charge the battery between 60 and 70%. In shipping, temperature changes cause that to drop somewhat. If they don’t charge the battery at all, those temperature changes can damage the cells in the battery if there’s no charge to them at all.

    #13369
    Version3
    Keymaster

    I don’t know why on this board, someone would find my opinion being passed off as fact to be insulting… at least not if they listen to the show. But hey, at least I’m not in the minority on this one… the general consensus on the movie seems to be very similar to some of the ‘insulting’ stuff I said.

    I don’t think I have a problem with suspension of belief, but if a movie fails to set the stage for the space out and enjoy, then I think it’s fair to grade it on the believability scale. I feel the same way about acting talent as many of you know.

    #13372
    rob
    Participant

    Yeah, because Paul Walker is the shit.

    (I like to make comments that are totally opposite of previous comments, but do it in a way like I’m agreeing. That’s called comedy. And I’m a smart ass.)

    #13383
    Frank
    Participant

    I think everyone here should know me well enough by now to know that I’m not going to hold it against someone (or call someone stupid or an idiot) if you like a movie that I don’t. I’ve been around this block long enough to know that I have similar tastes to some folks, but there are a lot of folks who think differently than me. I respect that.

    On a personal level, I’m mad at myself for going to see this when I said I wouldn’t and the message I sent out earlier was kind of a way for me to vent/see what everyone else thought. For all I knew, it was just me and I just wasn’t getting it. Take, for example, my roommate made me watch the entire series of “Firefly.” Of course, in return, I made him watch the first season of Jericho. I didn’t like the opening theme song because I thought it would have been more powerful without the words. Bing, who also is a big fan of the show, told me that the words to the song were vital because it told the story of the main character, Mal. See, I didn’t get that until someone told me.

    So, the point is I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about most of the time. But I love you guys (in a non-gay way, of course … except for Bucho) and I’m not here to pick a fight with anyone or to piss anyone off.

    That being said, I still want my fucking money back after having to watch that piece of shit movie.

    🙂

    #13390
    El Rustirino
    Participant

    Oh, no, what I meant by that was that I wouldn’t have given the answers like a person who didn’t like the movie. That’s all.

    #13368
    Version3
    Keymaster

    That’s cool though, you should give answers too… I think the thread is more interesting if more people answer.

    #13381
    Frank
    Participant

    I agree. Please, share with me your perspective.

    #13389
    El Rustirino
    Participant

    Alright then.

    1.) The girl who got bitten … did she explode or did they shoot her?
    She exploded. It’s implied that she was bitten by one of the little spider things that came off the monster, and I guess that makes people explode.
    2.) At what point do you say, “Hey, there’s a giant monster destroying the city, people are dying … I’ve got to videotape this. No matter what happens, I’ve got to keep this camera rolling!”
    Well, he had the camera rolling from the beginning, so I don’t think it would have mattered if he turned it off or not. Also, he said earlier on the bridge, when Rob asked him why he was still rolling, he said that “people were going to want to know what happened”.
    3.) What kinda of fucking camera were they using? Given that all of this, from the start of the party until the end, lasts around 8 to 10 hours, it was condensed to about an hour and a half. The camera was dropped, blood was splattered on it, it was dropped from about 80 feet or so and yet it still kept recording. I’m thinking about getting a new camera and apparently this is the one I need to buy.
    Here’s where you’re going to have to suspend your belief a little bit. If they had gone the practical way, and said, hey, the camera would break if this happened, then there would be no movie. Also, this is set in 2009. Not saying that would make much of a difference, but it is the future.
    4.) The monster looked as if it kinda used all four legs to walk, so to speak. So, did it bite the head off the Statue of Liberty and then throw it? It looked like the monster was just ransacking everything, but I never saw him throw anything. What happened there?
    That’s a pretty good question, but it just happened offscreen. Pretty much just because it came from the water, and the Statue of Liberty was closest.
    5.) The very beginning of the movie says “This is footage found from what used to be Central Park.” That told me two things: 1-Everything in New York pretty much got destroyed and, 2-No one survived to tell the story. So right away, I knew that was coming. Although I’m guessing that the brother who died’s girlfriend made it in the first helicopter.
    From what I hear, if you look closely during the scene where the monster hit the helicopter, another helicopter crashes, and most assume that it’s What’shername’s. I can’t remember her name for the life of me.
    6.) Speaking of helicopters, when they blasted the monster, the helicopter they were in had to be about 150 or so feet in the air (at least). So when the military blasted the hell out of the monster, he jumped up and smacked the helicopter just because? On top of that, has anyone seen a helicopter that high up crash land and not explode? Instead, the copter crashes and the only one killed is the pilot.
    What Bry said, most don’t explode on impact. And I suspect the helicopter was in the way. This is another one where you need to suspend belief.
    7.) The girl who was impaled (the one they had to kill themselves to rescue) had been bleeding from the beginning. When they lifted her off the rebarb, the amount of blood loss would have been extremely significant. Yet, she was able to climb over to the other building, run downstairs, help carry a guy with an apparent broken leg (after the copter crash) and doesn’t even lose the color in her cheeks. By the sheer will of God, amazingly she must have the healing capabilities of Wolverine, otherwise she would have died.
    Yeah, that’s the one I was kind of pissed off about. Doesn’t make any sense. Didn’t matter that much to me, though.
    8.) Where the fuck did this monster come from? What the fuck were the giant tick-like buggers falling off of him? How can we pin this on Iran and North Korea? On top of that, the monster was hit with several bombs, including what had to have been a 500 pound bomb and it didn’t even break the skin. What the fuck is this thing made of anyway?
    The whole point of this movie, which so many people seem to be missing – it’s not a real monster movie. It’s about the characters dealing with something so unexpected and confusing – and dangerous. Explaining the monster was not the point, at least not until the sequel. Not to mention they’re doing a lot of things involving the movie online, a viral ad campaign, that explains more, but not so much that you need to check it out.
    9.) Rob, maybe you can help me a little on this one (since you work at Sprint). After 9/11, you could not call anywhere in New York City. I know, I had a friend up there and all lines where either down or busy. Yet, this guy was able to call his girlfriend (if you will), check his voicemail and get a call from his mother to tell her that her son and his brother was dead. On top of that, his battery died, so he ran over and stole a brand new battery and apparently it came fully charged. I’m not an expert on cell phones, in particular Nokias, since they obviously paid a lot of money to have their brand plastered everywhere in this movie, but since when did cell phone batteries come with a full charge?
    I’m not knowledgeable about such things.
    10.) What happened at the end? When you see debris falling on the super-deluxe camera (which doesn’t smash and keeps filming) you hear the guy say “Look at me, look at me, I love you.” Then you hear the girl say, “I love you, too.” And that’s it. Does the monster smash the bridge? Does the military carpet bomb New York? Does the military finally kill the monster, who falls on the bridge, killing the two lovers? Or does the monster get so fed up with the plot that he decides to go attack the people on the island in Lost? Basically, what the fuck?

    It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out that the monster either was killed, or moved on, because I don’t think the government would be able to get in and grab the camera. But remember, this is a JJ Abrams production. While giving answers, it also presents many questions. Paramount has said that they’d do a sequel, and I think JJ plans on doing it, so…I assume this one would be answered in the sequel.

    Basically, this isn’t the last we’ll see of it, so it’d be better just to let all the info you have soak in until the next movie, when your questions will be answered.

    #13380
    Frank
    Participant

    Okay, maybe someone can answer this one, because I missed it. I read where at the very end of the movie where the couple is riding the fair wheel at Coney Island, the camera peers out towards the ocean and then back to the couple. I’ve heard that if you look closely, you’d see something happening in or near the water. Is that true? And if so, what was it?

    #13392
    thx_1227
    Participant
    Frank wrote:
    Okay, maybe someone can answer this one, because I missed it. I read where at the very end of the movie where the couple is riding the fair wheel at Coney Island, the camera peers out towards the ocean and then back to the couple. I’ve heard that if you look closely, you’d see something happening in or near the water. Is that true? And if so, what was it?

    If it’s the same thing I’ve heard, it is the monster falling into the water…

    And also that burst of noise near the end says something like “It is still still alive” or something like that if played backwards…

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